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[Á¤ ¹Ú ´ëºÏ °íÀ§°ü¸®]¡°I don't think we're on the precipice of war. However, we don't see any signals or evidence of a near-term attack. I also don't think it's in Kim Jong un's interest to launch a war.¡±
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[Á¤ ¹Ú ´ëºÏ °íÀ§°ü¸®]¡°We've been watching this issue for a long time, and we also know that DPRK will manufacture a reason for provocative actions to fit their political needs or their technical needs. So from my perspective, I think they have been doing a lot of weapons demonstrations in 2022. I think they did 69 ballistic missile tests. They've also, since January of 2021, said that they're going to do a whole series of test and develop new technologies. You know, hypersonic systems is one that you you've sees the underwater vehicles, nuclear vehicles, you know, solid fuel intercontinental ballistic missile system. So it's military reconnaissance satellite. They've they had a list they had a to do list and they've been developing and testing those capabilities. And so, of course, we were incredibly concerned about all of these developments.¡±
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[Á¤ ¹Ú ´ëºÏ °íÀ§°ü¸®]¡°We always call for dialogue with the DPRK. We've reached out privately, publicly through third parties to try to generate some sort of diplomacy with the DPRK because we think that's the only way that we get peace and security on the Korean Peninsula.¡±
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[Á¤ ¹Ú ´ëºÏ °íÀ§°ü¸®]¡°And the fact is that over the past couple of years, we've seen how multiple theaters have overlapped. You have the Northeast Asia or Indo-Pacific theater overlapping with war in Europe. So I think that goes to show how important it is to keep working at nonproliferation, to keep working at denuclearize, denuclearizing the Korean Peninsula. And I think nothing shows or encapsulates the importance of all of our efforts over the decades to try to constrain and constrict and choke off the DPRK as approach to their nuclear weapons.¡±
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[Á¤ ¹Ú ´ëºÏ °íÀ§°ü¸®]¡°North Korea certainly is not doing this for free. And they're certainly looking almost certainly looking for things like fighter aircraft, surface to air missiles, ballistic missile technologies and other technologies or armored vehicles. There's a lot that Russia can provide. And so we're always watchful for that. So this is a pretty fraught moment from my perspective in terms of nonproliferation, what it means for actual war fighting and what North Korea might be learning about their weapons systems, because Russia is actually using it on the war on the battlefield.¡±
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[Á¤ ¹Ú ´ëºÏ °íÀ§°ü¸®]¡°You know, sanctions have to continue regardless. That's what we're obligated to do. Right. Implement those sanctions. And they're there for a reason. They're there to keep us safe and to prevent proliferation. You know, but diplomacy, as you know so well, Victor, is the art of the possible and maybe the impossible. But we'll keep going at it. This is not going to be solved overnight. A lot of people, a lot of smart people have been working on this issue for a long time. But I do believe that all of our efforts will have ultimately have a cumulative effect. So we'll keep on with our efforts at deterrence, but we'll also keep on with our efforts on sanctions implementation, on the cyber efforts, the human rights efforts, the humanitarian efforts, as well as, you know, continuing to reach out to the DPRK for further talks. So that's a lot of work that we have been undertaking. And we'll hope that and we'll continue to press for dialog.¡±
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[Á¤ ¹Ú ´ëºÏ °íÀ§°ü¸®]¡°Ambassador Kim Sung, Kim, who retired at the end of last year, was the special representative for the DPRK, really an honor for from the president to appoint him to that position. Ambassador Kim has retired. So since he has retired, I've taken on and assumed those roles that that Ambassador Kim had had as a special representative. And the senior official title for the DPRK is more of a technical term that I will not bore anybody with you or your audience. But in essence, I've taken on the duties of the special representative in charge of DPRK policy for the United States government.¡±
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